What is the status for next beta client?

First of all: Text chat is a core feature of TeamSpeak, the channel banner is certainly not.

It doesn’t hurt that channel banners are not shown in TeamSpeak 3, especially since the majority of server owners is still on TeamSpeak 3 and therefore likely implement channel banners via channel descriptions anyway.

Regarding the “new” chat you are proposing:

Do you really expect a for-profit company with only a few employees only some of which are actual software developers to maintain two concurrent chat systems on the server side, one of which is considered deprecated once the new client generation becomes the standard?

I don’t see that happening anytime soon.

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Text chat was never a core feature of Teamspeak, it was a means to share youtube links, nothing more. The core feature of TeamSpeak is in the name and it is called VoIP. ALL new features will not be integrated into TS3, the TeamSpeak Services group chat will not be integrated and no other new feature will be integrated.
How TeamSpeak will evolve is not up for debate, it’s just a request from me. That it was born out of the idea that you can chat with your friends with your TSIDs independent of the server, I think everyone can understand. But in the end, teamspeak advertises with “Your Server, Your Rules” and this system is just not compatible with it. And that’s why I think there should be a server-side permanent chat, just like Discord has one. No matter if you are connected to the TeamSpeak Services, because those are my server rules.

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damn I’m so worried about TeamSpeak right now…
may we can get an new status update for (as example) a new update?

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Same! Just want a sign of life

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After talking at our meeting we might just be moving to Discord after hearing yesterday about their community support which was just released the other day - https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360047132851 so consider their silent blunder another 60-90 TS community possibly lost.

Maybe they are planning to do a big surprise but the thing is, we’ve been waiting, year after year, how long did we wait during the whole puzzles they did, there’s just been too much waiting, and now they plan to make us wait more in silence with (hopefully) a big surprise like No mans sky? It’s just too much waiting even No Mans Sky went silent for just 100 days…

We’ll first set everything up then see how our community feels on the switch and if the majority are happy with it we’ll take that leap. Maybe someday TS will make that surprise update but it would sure make life easier no longer having to wait for Teamspeak to come out.

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The whole thing feels weird. I am not mad. Just disappointed. A helpless feeling. Knowing I don’t wanna do something I feel like I am being forced to do… Kind of like when xifre closed down. I didn’t use xfire for a long time, but when I found out it was closed down and I didn’t log on or check out my old screenshots from 10-15 years before, a weird and sad feeling.

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I agree it does feel weird, I’m sure in time i’d get use it to, but TS IMO still feels like home and probably always will. I would say if your guys are really wanting one, have them set one up as best as they can with bots, boost it up to level 1 or even 2 etc and present it to you and see how it goes and if you aren’t someone who rules with an iron fist then just let the majority vote I guess, have your staff get a feel for it and see how each one feels after getting use to it.

One plus thing I can see (which makes me sad/mad) is that a server booted to level 1 the voice quality is on par if not better than TS, and boosted to level 2 to its far better… which is just a slap in the face given TS should have been always the best quality, I thought I was crazy but we just played with the Opus voice and music and went back and yeah it’s more clear on Discord Level 2 easily… Teamspeak has become Steven Seagal in all ways shape and form being once a bad azz now a lazy fat man… I don’t think I’ll ever be a fan of Discord but having our staff show me stuff on it I can’t deny it does have some pretty good features, something TS Should have already…

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I dont want to change your decision but please don‘t decide something because you are angry at the moment. I would wait to the next update and if they do not change something with their communication you can always switch. We all know the situation but we should give them a chance too. Because first on Twitter was said that something is coming and second there is a new executive director which could change a lot. Please just think of it.

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@MythicalLars It’s not up to me, I’ve never ran our community with an iron fist since i’ve taken over in 2016 it will pretty much come down to how the majority feel, and honestly I think our main playerbase don’t care what they use while there is a slice of players who would much prefer discord giving it the edge in a switch.

TS5 was announced what 2017? This is the progress they have to show? I think back to seeing it on their download page, how long we waited constantly checking that page, to then seeing the puzzles, and finally some images, to finally a trailer, to finally getting a key and downloading it, and it’s not even in a good enough shape to use being stripped down, what the heck were they doing that whole time? I would love to say it’s just me being picky (like how some give up on EA games) but everyone i know who has a key, is using TS3. They gave us the roadmap on Trello, great. One of the things for Next up is the web client, looking at everything else in the list tho, it’s pretty lack luster. Given their current speed, and from the looks above their lack of funding and size of team, it’s going to be a very very very long time to get this on par with current discord, and by then Discord will probably be leap years ahead of TS making TS feel even more obsolete. It’s frustrating, it really is, to support a VOIP program for almost two decades and this is how they treat you… I hate Discord, but I hate being disrespected even more by Teamspeaks constant silent treatment or subpar responses. There is absolutely NOTHING to get excited about - and if I can’t get excited over TS, how can I get 17 years worth of members to get excited? You do fun things like this at Gamescom https://youtu.be/iVzJl1j_Urk but then when it comes down to business you guys are a no show, it’s like you still think it’s 2014 or something. It’s very tiring, and I’m just one person with a community, every week you are probably losing a dozen more, and if you do decide to pull a No mans sky type of thing, think about it like this… Imagine if No mans sky waited 100 days they finally annoucne an update, only Star Citizen was already fully out, nobody would care about No mans Sky at that point aside from lower end computers, that’s pretty much what your doing, Discord is Star Citizen.

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Yes, sure. I totally understand your problem (I have the same too) but I just wanted to say that we should give them one (more) chance. At the moment, we can‘t say what the surprise is and maybe the new executive director can change something. So I would say we all can wait for the next big announcement before we decide something which stays for a long while. It‘s a very hard work to move a community to another platform so I would not do this without waiting just a little bit.

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Same boat. I am not a dictator. I work for my community.

Holy crap… Am I understanding the boost prices right? Looks like they’re robbing people to me. Maybe not really robbing. But here, have a free ■■■■ server. Or you can be ripped for a good server.

(4.99)

level 1= 2 boosts at $5
level 2= 15 boosts at $5
level 3= 30 boosts at $5boost scam

:frowning:

Looks to me like you don’t understand how a business functions.
Also… maybe look at TS license prices. Which one seems better to you?

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@Donaramu

This is my understanding from talking with our guys and what I’ve witnessed myself. With our current TS bots we use now, we would save X money and can be used towards a level 2 boost. Putting that aside, we have members that would have no problem getting us to level 2 each month, BUT even without level 2, level one is easy to get to for very little money, which gives you better or on par TS quality (close enough to where you’ll pretty much hear the same).

That Level 3, is for rich people, I don’t think nobody would never pay for this unless they have a huge discord community with many nitro users but from my understanding most don’t try to reach level 3, what they do is they try to reach partnership or something like that with discord and if they get it, they get access to pretty much level 3 quality on their discord server without spending a dime.

If you want to test a Level 2 quality server you can try ours which our guys are still setting up but you can always come in and test the voice quality and compare to TS yourself.

How Discord surpassed TS in quality is an outright shame to Teamspeak because you already pay for your server, that was one of the big benefits of using Teamspeak which was that you were getting the highest quality voice, but now that their competitor offers this system, it makes TS feel even less special, and TS even advertise on their trailer for the new TS that it has even better audio but how long are we to wait for this now? On the trailer they don’t even show better audio it’s just a random image thrown in.

"TeamSpeak’s maximum quality is already around 100 kbps VBR. Nominal bitrate of Opus at quality level 10 is 79.2 kbps net and 97.2 kbps including overhead (97.2 kbps is what you already saw in the channel info). VBR corridor is ±7% so TeamSpeak will exceed 100 kbps in gross.

7.71 KiB = 64kbps
11.87 KiB = 97Kbps "

If that is true, then I see it like this (and correct me if I’m wrong)

Teamspeak = 100 kpbs
Level 1 Boost = 128kbs
Level 2 Boost = 256kbps
Level 3 Boost = 384kbps

That’s just audio quality, even at level 2 you get 1080p 60fps Go Live streams so you can watch your friends screen in high quality, how long before Teamspeak would offer such a thing? Probably never. So Teamspeak is supposed to be the King of Audio, yet even in this category now their getting slapped around. I hope they read my posts, and finally wake up, speak up, sell Teamspeak to some other company that can actually give it life, or make a new VOIP and say “from the makers from Teamspeak we present to you…”

Currently now I’m baffled, Teamspeak needs to give us a reason for staying, and saying Teamspeak offers the best quality voice now would be a lie. Discord seems to be King in nearly all categories now yet they are still bettering themselves by listening to feedback from their fans even tho they have no need to and yet here is Teamspeak remaining quiet, losing followers each day. How am I supposed to recruit players to our community now if I can’t even say Teamspeak offers the highest voice quality, how am I supposed to convince players to use a 10 yr old VOIP over something new that requires far less effort for players to join in. For so long we had hoped for TS to just have the frigging web client and we still don’t have this, and now that we see Discord offering Community support, what Community support would Teamspeak give back to us? What features do I see that I can say would be worth the wait?

I leave you with this Teamspeak:

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So you finally decided to leave teamspeak :frowning:

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Not liking the pricing for boost levels= I don’t understand? Childish. You would have been better off to just leave it at the " license prices" part. Thanks.

Boost level 2= $75 a month. I pay far less than that. TS has dropped the ball. But I don’t think it’s a fair vs. When ts5 is out. I will judge based on that. For now, I just judge them for not keeping us in the loop. In the end, companies like discord take far more. They take your freedom. Pretty sure you’re a American. You can see how much of the world is losing theirs. You should wanna do everything you can to keep it.

Well that’s it.

Bruh but how old is this picture? It’s from the gamescom 2014?

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@Donaramu

I’m guessing the way their system works, is the bigger you are, the more easier you can obtain Level 2. Let me clear the air a little on their pricing after looking at this more.

If your community is say 10-15 active daily, all it takes is one person to buy Discord Nitro ($9.99 a month) which gives you 2 boosts to use at your disposal (Level 1 is just 2 boosts, so you obtain level 1 this way) so your only paying 9.99 a month for your server which now gives you better voice quality than Teamspeak and a bunch of other things. That same Nitro user gets another benefit from being Nitro which is 30% off any boosts they buy, so you only need 13 more to get to Level Two which 30% off comes to about $48 (rather than $75). That’s just one person, if you had other members pitch in (like the UwG members you said want to make the switch), they’ll throw more boosts onto your server, it becomes very similar as someone donating to your paypal to pay off your Teamspeak cost and other costs, tho Level 1 is fine for most groups. BTW I’m not American I’m Canadian :+1: :canada:

I don’t deny that they do take your freedom, that really sucks, but I have to dig deep down, suck it up and think about it like this… Why do I run our community? It’s because I want to provide the same fun experience I had when I first joined. New people enjoy us for our players, everything else is just extra nice. Not using our forums anymore, sucks, I have almost 25,000 posts, but looking at our backend statistics, many of our active posters are older players like myself. Everyone is pretty much using a Discord / TS combo.


Back in April 2019 we made a vote, and Discord won in favor of moving, but we stayed seeing the TS5 closed beta was just coming out, and it has greatly disappointed us, maybe it will be good eventually but we don’t want to wait 1-2 more years.

@MCG I believe thats Gamescom 2013, a golden age of Teamspeak that will be very well missed. I still remember that World of Warcraft episode where they mention their using Teamspeak.
Edit: Yeah here’s the clip, had they done that episode now that would have said Discord since it’s what the majority of players would relate to.

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Canadian? Yea, they seem to be losing some of their freedoms. Just like my EU buddies. You never know what you had until you end up in jail for calling someone a mean word when you got mad.
Yea, I don’t think the level 1 is bad price. level 2 and 3 seem off. But I thought discord weren’t gonna add that stuff? Don’t get me wrong, I am on the fence. We already have a discord with most of our members knowing about it… Even some of the old members that are on discord because of other friends have started popping in the chat channel. But that’s something that also worries me. I will see a bunch of members on discord. Maybe not in teamspeak, but then they’re not in channel, but active in the chat. It seems it leads to many people being active, but not at the same time. Which is what I was told other communities have had problems with. idk. We’re getting people ready for discord, but we haven’t made the move yet. Also, discord didn’t win the poll. Following friends did. And in the end, that’s what 99% of people will do.Yea, our forums aren’t super active. Not in the last 3 or so years. idk, after BF4 we slowed down. Their is no core game to bring us all together full time. Jump between codmw and eft mainly. Idk, maybe if discord stopped data mining if you paid, but overall, they’re still milking. I will always hate how discord does things. Even if I make the move, I will always hate them as a company. Just like I hate facebook and google. Evil.

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